Elon Musk and the members of his Doge team discuss efforts to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse of the government and approach their detractors and more.
The co-founder of Airbnb, Joe Gebbia, who played a role in the Ministry of Government (DOGE), led by Elon Musk, aims to digitize the government’s retirement process, qualifying the current “injustice to civil servants”.
“It will be an online digital process that will only take a maximum of a few days … It is an injustice for civil servants who are subject to these processes,” said Gebbia during an exclusive interview with “Special Report” on Thursday. Gebbia joined Musk and six other members of the Doge team to shed light on the Department’s cost reduction mission With the editor -in -chief Bret Baier.
For his part, Gebbia said that he was aimed at transforming the paper retirement process for federal employees into a system that only takes a few days. He said that the obsolete system in his current state takes months.
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The co-founder of Airbnb, Joe Gebbia, speaks during an event in London on November 19, 2019. (Daniel Leal / AFP via Getty Images / Getty Images)
“There is a look in Pennsylvania which houses all paper documents for the government’s retirement process,” said Gebbia.
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“This giant cave has 22,000 films stacked 10 to house 400 million pieces,” he said, adding that the process had started in the 1950s and has not largely changed in the past 70 years.
“We really believe that the government can have an apple -form store experience. Excellent beautifully designed user experience, modern systems,” continued Gebbia.
His efforts are among the wider Dogey objectives to eliminate the “waste and fraud” of the federal government. Thursday, Musk said that Doge sought to reduce public spending by at least 15%, which, according to him, is “completely feasible”.
Musk previously declared that the country’s debt was so high that payments of interest exceed the entire military budget and that DOGE is necessary to prevent the country from going bankrupt.
Shortly after the president Donald Trump was sworn in office, he gave the organization of Musk 18 months to rationalize government operations and reduction expenses.
Since then, the ministry has canceled numerous diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives (DEI) in federal agencies, consulting contracts, leases for underused federal buildings and double agencies and programs.

The main house advisor of the White House and CEO of Tesla, Elon Musk, listens during a meeting of the cabinet held by President Donald Trump at the White House on March 24, 2025. (Win McNamee / Getty / Getty Images images)
On March 28, Doge claims On his website, which he allowed the Americans $ 130 billion, or $ 807.45 per taxpayer, a combination of asset sales, contractual / lease cancellations and renegotiations, fraud and deletion of inappropriate payment, cancellations of subsidies, savings of interest, programmatic modifications, regulatory savings and maneuver reductions.
However, with these cuts, challenges. Some judges have already called for the reinstatement of probationary employees in dozens of licensed agencies. Last week, two judges rendered consecutive decisions that would effectively restore workers in 24 agencies.
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Musk’s work with DOGE also stimulated the protests of adversaries who in some cases have Tesla targetedThe automaker for which it is CEO. These incidents have presented cases of vandalism targeting the owners of Tesla individual, as well as the dealerships and the charging stations of the electric vehicle manufacturer.

As of March 28, DOGE said on his website that he saved $ 130 billion in the Americans. (Photo by Samuel Corum / Getty Images / Getty Images)
Legislators have also raised certain concerns. Senator Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, also published on X earlier this month that the American agency in Alaska for international development employees informed her of the “confusing and insane manipulation of personnel by OPM and Doge” and “painted an incredibly disturbing image of what the world looks like the world without humanitarian assistance of the United States. “”
Eric Revell by Fox Business contributed to this report.